Difference between Holga and Diana+ what's the difference of the shots for this two?
i did my own research but i'm still rather blur.
so i would appreciate some help :)
destructology- 04-09-2008
Diana+ can take pinhole pictures but not a Holga. I have not used a Diana+ before, but I think that they yield the same kinda pictures.
Personally, I would get a black Holga GN. That should suffice.
SiaoKia- 04-10-2008
ok.thanks for your info! :)
any more views about their difference anyone?
fartsomeart- 04-10-2008
i dont see much difference actually, good pics can be taken with both cams
cyanwater- 04-10-2008
The original diana models and clones yield softer images. Very dreamy and surreal. And also for the fact that they are usually used, the plastic lenses and bodies are not in pristine condition which add to the characteristic(blurry & leaks) of the shots. Personally, I find pics taken with the reproduced diana+ much sharper. Which makes it not much of a difference compared to a Holga. :)
artpunk- 05-29-2008
I’ve seen quite a few discussions regarding the differences between Diana and Holga toy cameras and which is better. Let me state right now that I think value judgements like ‘better’ really are subjective markers and what is good for one person may not be suitable for others. I will confess right now that I shoot with my Diana and Diana + (this latter one almost exclusively lately) more often because I feel they give me more options, but have outlined below what I think the main differences I can see as far as what each camera has to offer.
Diana’s (both the original, clones and the new Diana +) create beautiful & dreamy shots. The exact nature of these unique attributes differ from model to model and indeed from camera to camera. The finder is above the lens in a Diana, making composing more accurate.
Here are some things I really like about the Diana + in particular:
4 apertures (the traditional 3 - sunny, hazy, cloudy, plus the pinhole)
Choice of 3 negative frame sizes (panoramic, 6×6 and 4×4).
The ability to shoot pinhole shots on the same roll as plastic lens shots.
The ability to shoot pinhole traditionally or with the lens on.
The ability to mount your Diana+ on a tripod, it makes using the “b” shutter selection so much easier for pinhole and night shots/long exposures.
The relatively new Diana F + gives the added opportunity for flash photography with the provided flash or using a modern hotshoe flash of your choice with the provided hotshoe adapter.
The plastic doodad (even though it is a bit of a gimmick and fiddly) to allow really long exposure times without physically holding the shutter down).
Points against the Diana +:
The loading of film is a bit fiddly, not as easy as with the traditional original Diana camera, but you get used to it with practice.
The film advance can wind on accidently if you are not careful, for example, when putting it in a camera bag.
Holga - I like shooting with my Holgas, but I find I have not as much to say about them. They give a lovely soft image with nice vignetting (many feel the vignette is nicer in the Holga as compared to the Diana and they could be right) Once again, like with Dianas different Holgas can give different results!
Some people think that the Holga’s build quality is better than the Diana, personally (from my experience) I feel some things are better, the plastic is thicker and they may stand up to being dropped better than Dianas I suppose but some aspects are worse - my Holga’s back can fall off easily because the design of the clips to hold the back on aren't very firm, I need to use rubber bands to make sure the back stays on.
btw - I try not to drop any of my cameras, but because plastic is lighter it tends to land lighter, so mine have never broken on the rare occasions they have dropped.
Some people think they leak light more than Dianas too, but it’s good practice with any toy camera to tape up any areas prone to light leaks, just in case.
The Holga only has ONE aperture unless you hack it. This means that unless you use at least iso 400 film, you’re photos may be underexposed. Forget about indoor photography unless you have superfast film.
The Holga has a tripod thread.
“N” and “B” shutter speeds.
Some holgas have built in flash (not very powerful), most have a hotshoe.
:D
happiman- 05-31-2008
great review! very detailed! looking forward to see more of your review artpunk!! lol
shermainee- 06-29-2008
nice info. but i got a diana. might be getting a holga next to try out.
happiman- 06-29-2008
i own a diana, and i loved it. a holga may be more versatile, can add this, add that, mod here, mod that and stuff.
you might want to try maybe a 35mm camera next. haha
sumlom- 06-30-2008
yea 35mm camera. save money :)
happiman- 06-30-2008
yup, got more types of film to try also..
smellyjelly- 07-02-2008
if you have either a holga or diana alr, i suggest not getting another one of the other. because both cameras are similar. instead get a camera that is TOTALLY different from the two 120 format cams.
like the lca? the horizon?
and have a 35mm handy too, cos 120 is expensive and only yields 12-16 shots.
l33_brandon- 07-08-2008
Just get a Vivitar Ultra Wide Slim, 22mm lenses, full plastic.
Costs below $30, gives wide angle and takes 35mm film!
Cheap and good :)
smellyjelly- 07-08-2008
Just get a Vivitar Ultra Wide Slim, 22mm lenses, full plastic.
Costs below $30, gives wide angle and takes 35mm film!
Cheap and good Smile what he says is right! i want a vivitar too, for hipshooting.
l33_brandon- 07-08-2008
Yes yes! Go get vivitar!
My friend is getting a diana+.
I am getting holga 120N.
Perhaps we shall do some -*test*-('") shots together ")
Like same film, same developing store,
same shooting spot, haha!
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